supersymmetry: (split)
You get asked an awful lot of questions when you come back from the dead. The really, really dead, even. Soul-destroyed-absolutely-never-coming-back dead. Breaking-the-laws-of-physics dead. Except you can't cheat physics, and you can't destroy a soul.

She couldn't destroy mine, and now I can't destroy hers. It's just that somewhere along the line the reset button got hit and now I'm back in charge.

I don't know how it's possible.

I'm pretty sure I'm still me, more or less. The metaphysical experts assure me that I've got what passes for an intact human soul in addition to her ... grace, they called it, for lack of a better word. All my memories are intact. I remember everything that happened up til the moment I died... and some besides, too.

She remembers the parts I don't, except now I guess I do. For a while, it felt like there were two sets of everything.

Now it feels like...

... is it too weird if I say it's kind of comforting, after everything that's happened?

I know I'm supposed to hate her. I'm supposed to want her gone. To be just Fred again. To be alone in here. Except I had five years of alone and if you think this is the first occasion I've had another voice to keep me company, you haven't been paying attention.

At least I know she's real. She exists. I have eyewitness reports on top of the memories and the occasional lapses into vaguely Elizabethan speech. And she's here even when she's quiet, which is most of the time now. She wants me to have back the life she took. She's even kind of responsible for giving it back to me. I don't want to return the favor by killing her.

People keep asking me that. Do I want her gone, destroyed, or just out? There was some weird talk of building her a robot body which, I had to admit, sounded kind of interesting before it was quickly vetoed by everyone with even half an ounce of common sense -- including, surprisingly, Illyria herself. She knows what she's capable of minus the influence of a human conscience, and nobody knows how much of that is tied to this 'shell' we're in. So, until a better solution presents itself, we're staying put.

The thing I haven't really said out loud is that I don't know that I want a better solution. And -- we try not to speak for one another often, but that's more for others' benefit -- I don't think she does, either.

She could drown my voice out entirely if she wanted to. I can feel that, just like I can feel her presence like white noise at the back of my consciousness. She's quiet but vast. Oceans and oceans of presence - but she made a safe space for me in the middle of all that. I go to sleep at night knowing there's not much that can hurt me and that I'll never be alone.

Until you've spent five years in a cave and another couple dead, you don't know how much of a relief that feeling is, no matter where it comes from.
supersymmetry: (we all get lost)
Fred had been incredibly tempted to march herself right to Wesley's room and ask him why he thought keeping vital information from her was a good idea. It wasn't that she didn't understand the impulse to keep the truly alarming knowledge away from her at first -- heaven knew if their positions had been reversed she'd have flailed for an appropriate reaction. She also probably would've held it together a lot less convincingly, so she had to give credit where credit was due. And she didn't want to cause him any more pain. She wondered, idly, if she'd managed to get up the nerve to ask him out for coffee before she died. Or if she'd ever do so now, knowing what she knew.

It was too much knowledge for one girl to deal with on her own, but it was no one else's to deal with, either.

Well, maybe one person's. Demon's, she amended in her head the minute she caught herself thinking about having the conversation. She couldn't start thinking about this Illyria as a person - down that road lay madness, and there was enough madness running around this place already.

It took Fred only a few minutes of deliberation before she looked up Illyria's name in the directory and found the room she was staying in. It took her another whole day of changing her mind back and forth before she firmly decided that her only option was to confront this thing head-on before that choice was taken away from her, too.

She had her hand raised to knock firmly when the door swung inward, robbing her of even that much power.
supersymmetry: (Default)
Hey, this is Fred. I'm not in right now, but rest assured that I'll get back to you as soon as humanly - or potentially inhumanly, given the technology I'm used to dealing with - possible. Oh, and the beep on this thing is really inaudible, so just count to three and start talking!
supersymmetry: (look back)
It was time. More than time, if Fred were honest with herself, which she tried to be. It was hard not to be when you'd had all that time with just yourself (future versions of that self nonwithstanding.) It was time, and she'd made her peace.

Just one or two things left to do.

Three letters, to be left with Bar on her way out:

For Wesley. )

For Illyria. )

For anyone else who knew her. )


And on the wall (the perfect, pristine wall -- she'd never taken to writing on it here, not even the days she was sorely tempted), in slightly loopy and messy handwriting, said with a whispered almost-prayer to whatever magic kept this place running to let it stay for a while, just long enough that someone would know, and remember an existence that had been lead quietly and often incredibly strangely, but lead nonetheless:

Winifred Burkle was here.
supersymmetry: (mysteries)
The dreams never stop, though they don't come every night, and weren't always so clear in their message. But they never stop, and never fail to leave her with a sense of foreboding even when she can't quite remember their message.

She barely leaves her room these days. It's not that she's afraid; it is that she was simply more comfortable with being alone. It had been almost two years in this place; two years coming and going from the Bar to the lake to the stairs to her room again and never losing hope but never really gaining hope, either. Like a hamster on a wheel, round and round and round, never gaining ground.

Winifred Burkle is trapped, and tired of it. She'd waited patiently for the door to open. She'd done her research. She'd seen her friends come and go. She'd been almost in love but never really there, and though she'd found a friend or two along the way, this place wasn't and never could be home.

It is as much a prison as that cave in Pylea had been, and if death wasn't exactly chasing her down, it was still out there. Just waiting, taking its time, because time stopped when she came in here. A look in the mirror didn't reveal one single change in the face that she'd looked at so many times before. She knows it won't; she'd looked closely enough at the other face that some occasionally mistook for hers to know that much. She'd look this way forever, and so would she.

This wasn't living.

She knows the other will anticipate her coming. She knows the ties that bind them make her nothing more than an annoying buzzing in the ex-goddess's head, but still she knocks on the door when she arrives.

(496 - it should've been mine.)

"Enter."

Blank blue eyes are never surprised. She would've liked to surprise (funny how she almost thought survive, just then) Illyria just once.

"Yeah, I was kinda planning on it."

She tones the sarcasm that is her way of dealing with this creature (it's how she sees you), but a little of it slips out in that first sentence anyway.
(Sentence. That's what I've been living out here, hasn't it?)

"Ask what you will," the goddess sounds almost compassionate today, though Fred's sure it's just wishful thinking even as Illyria motions for her to sit in the room's plush chair whose inspiration seems to be cavemen meet (astronauts) Queen Victoria. Fred accepts, tucks her feet up under her and finds the chair surprisingly comfortable, all things considered.
(I wonder if she ever actually sits in it?)

"You know why I'm here."

The goddess nods, ever so slightly, something almost sad
(you've gotten good at projecting)
about her eyes.

"And I know you want to ask, else I would have come to you sooner."
"You can't make it easier; I don't want you to."

She is defiant, insistent upon that much.

"No," the goddess agrees.

"But you can tell me how it happens. What I'm supposed to expect. How long it takes, how much it hurts."

To her credit, Illyria does not ask why. She knows. Of course she knows. Fred hates that a little, but there is something comforting about the fact that before she starts recounting, Illyria sits as well, on the bed that Fred's fairly sure she doesn't sleep in. There's something less horrifying in the way she has to look away from Fred once or twice, so caught in the memory that seems to disturb her too. Fred tries her best not to flinch. She doesn't know if she succeeds.

It isn't a very long retelling, even with all the details Illyria can think to throw in. (How it feels to have to remind yourself to keep breathing. Counting the seconds because counting means you're still there for a few more.) It's a painful death but it's not that long in the telling of it, and she's almost disappointed when Illyria finishes because it means that's one more conversation she doesn't have left.

"Did you get what you wanted from that experience?"

The icy voice jars her out of the numbness she'd started to retreat to, and she can't believe she thought she'd heard any regret there.

"You know the answer to that," Fred replies, and Illyria only nods.

"Well. I guess that's that." She stands to go, and Illyria stands also, follows her to the door. She thinks it's a strangely human thing to do, to show her out, but strangely human often seemed the best way to describe the blue-tinged creature anyway.

"What will you do?" Illyria asks, and Fred turns around smiles just a little, even though it brings her no real happiness.

"You know the answer to that, too."


All around me darkness gathers,
Fading is the sun that shone;
We must speak of other matters:
You can be me when I'm gone
supersymmetry: (click)
Somewhere, outside the Bar, in the world that Fred left behind somewhere vaguely near to a year ago, a Slayer dreams.

Fred dreams as well, though hers do not usually carry the same significance.

"Head," the girl says, reaching a bloodied hand out to touch Fred at the temple, "and heart," she continues, clasping one of Fred's hands and drawing it to herself to feel the wild racing heartbeat beneath the skin. Fred pulls away, startled, stares down at her own now similarly bloodstained right hand.

(A flash of before -- Pylea -- a girl lures a demon who was once a man away from men who are just men.)

"Head and heart. You'll need them. She'll need them for what comes later."

"I remember." Fred replies, remembering in that way you do in dreams. All at once, and apropos of nothing, she remembers. "I remember you. You're that girl. We helped you. Dana, was it?"
(Things have names.)

"Shh. Listen."
(For the click?)
Dana presses a (perfectly clean, now) finger to Fred's lips. Fred doesn't back away. Personal space is something you lose concept of, she supposes, if you've had enough of it. She'd had enough of it, but she filled hers up with numbers because there weren't any people left to fill it.

Dana smiles, a smile that's almost kind though it overlays something dark and feral. She's not scared, Fred notices. The Dana she'd met had been scared. Fred guesses it's been a while. Time enough for a scared, violent, insane girl to be none of those things any more. Dana smiles, and Fred's pretty sure the violence has stayed even if the fear is gone, but she doesn't back away when the Slayer moves her hand again to brush a piece of hair out of Fred's eyes.

"Let's try the blue one this time."

Fred flinches, just a little, but the Slayer ignores it, lets Fred reclaim her personal space as she takes off the jacket she's wearing. It's red, Fred notices, dark red, and she can't tell if it started that color or not. She holds it out to Fred, scolding.

"Yellows make you weak."

Fred's shirt is yellow. She's worn it a hundred times, and she's always thought it made her feel more alive, more happy, more there. But she takes the offered jacket anyway, slips it on if only to appease the madwoman.

"Um... thanks, I guess. Look, Dana, I..." she fumbles for an excuse, a reason to leave, and she's not sure why she's so certain this girl's going to rip her to pieces if she takes a step back.

" Brown makes you sleepy," Dana replies, placidly, as though Fred has not spoken at all. "It's just like falling asleep."
"Is that true?" Fred asks, suddenly sure of what Dana's talking about, in the way that words make sense in dreams even when they don't.
Dana shrugs, and there's that feral smile again.
"No."

It's not a comforting thought, Fred thinks, and as if in reply the Slayer speaks words that don't sound as though they're meant to be comforting.

"You aren't like them. Like us. We didn't choose this, either."
"What?" Fred asks, knowing the answer.
"Destiny."
(Screw destiny.)

Blood on Dana's face, blood on Fred's hand.
"You're not like us."
(You always know your place.)

"So what is this?" Fred asks, in a moment of clarity. "A dream? A vision? Like your Slayer stuff, or Cordy's...?"
"One time only." The Slayer snaps, insistent. "Not like us. Head and heart. You have friends in high places."
"Don't I know it." Fred cracks a smile.
"This isn't your power." Dana's scolding again, and Fred thinks it's because she smiled.

"What is?" It's the most important question, it's the one that will make the numbers work, and the dream's slipping already, slipping away from her because this was never her gift.
"You'll know. This is only the first layer. Don't be scared."

"I'm not scared!" Fred calls out into the darkness, into the space the strange wild girl had been, and wakes up breathing hard, heart racing, words echoing in a dark room as the dream already begins to fade from memory.

I'm not scared.
supersymmetry: (I'm not scared)
[Backdated to October 31.]

She didn't enter the Bar on Halloween. She learned her lesson last year, when the Bar had made her into something she wasn't.

Yet, that little voice that she'd lived with for five years in Pylea and still came out in the dark quiet times reminded her. You aren't that yet. But you will be. No, that isnt right. She will be, and you'll be nothing.

It was a tough voice to silence when she wouldn't leave her room. Easier not to, lately. Easier to bury herself in books and numbers and theories, endless theories, if she ever got out of here there was going to be a whole world of theories to to change the world. She'd live and chance the world and that voice that always second-guessed her would shut up and leave her alone.

"I'm not going anywhere." she told her own reflection.

"I'm not going anywhere, and that's that."

It was only after she turned away that her reflection answered back.

"We'll see."

She didn't jump, or start, or blink, or any of that surprised stuff. She didn't do any of those things, only turned around slowly, calmly. She'd dealt with stranger things. So her reflection was talking. It wasn't as though there weren't perfectly valid reasons for that.

The girl in the mirror was pale, dark shadows making her face all bones and hollows, making her eyes too large in her skull. Bloodless lips curved into a slight smile, and Fred was forced to rethink her opinion on how she didn't think she could possibly look worse than covered in electric blue.

"We will, you know. We'll see, right up til the end. We'll keep our eyes open as long as we can, but it won't change anything."

"Stop that. I'm not listening."

The girl stepped out of the mirror. Fred was beyond being surprised.

"You are. It's what we're best at."

"You're just a voice in my head. You're just all that negativity, just all that fear I don't talk about. You're nothing. You're not me."

"You're funny. That's what she'll say when the tables are turned. We're just a voice in her head. We're not her."

"We're not. I'm not. I'll never be her."

The dead girl laughed.

"Of course not. You don't know which one you're scared of more, do you?"

"Which one?" Fred frowned, not quite understanding, which she should've probably taken as the first sign that this wasn't her.

"Dying or not dying. Ending forever or becoming part of her. Being trapped or being nothing. You're not sure."

"I would rather be dead than be any part of her. I am sure."

"You're not. Not yet." The smile turned rueful, her tone sad.

"Stop it. Just stop. I know myself and I know I'll never sound like that. You're either her or you're a nightmare or you're something this Bar dreamed up to scare me. Get out."

"I will. As soon as you're sure, I'll be gone, and you'll be..." mirror-Fred trailed off, that tiny smile still fixed upon her lips.

"What? What will I be?" For all that she insisted upon not caring, she wasn't going to let some dream-bitch get away with scaring her and not giving answers.

"Come here and I'll tell you." Mirror-Fred took a step closer, beckoning, holding a hand out to her twin.

"You think I'm stupid?"

"I think you're curious. Come on, you know I'm not the biting kind. Besides, there's someone here wants to see you again." Her other hand came out from behind her back, holding a ragged stuffed plush bunny.

"Feigenbaum."

"Master of Chaos. We almost forgot."

Fred stepped forward, reaching for the almost-forgotten toy.

"Not yet. Not until you hear the rest of it."

Fred chewed at her lip, frowning. This was almost certainly a bad idea.

But so was hiding in her room for weeks at a time until she went crazy and started seeing things.

"Oh, hell." The curse was muttered under her breath, as she took a step forward, took the mirror-Fred's hand which was surprisingly warm for a dead woman's. Let herself be pulled in close to hear the whispered secret, felt more than heard her twin's lips move next to her ear, and...

Sat up in bed, breathing hard and fumbling for the light.

Just a dream.

Just a stupid, stupid dream, brought on by too much solitude and too much thinking and probably not enough of whatever it was that kept bad dreams away.

And then her eyes fell upon something at the foot of the bed, something that hadn't been there before. Something that had kept the nightmares away for years as a child. Something that hadn't made it here, to the end of the Universe.

A tattered stuffed bunny, the Master of Chaos.

Fred clutched it tight even as she lay awake until daylight, trying her hardest to remember the whispered secret even as she tried not to fall back asleep.
supersymmetry: (going somewhere pretty)
[after this thread and Illyria's subsequent return to Milliways.]

It's late - late enough that she should be sleeping. Wesley'd insisted that she get some sleep after the lights came back on, after the most immediate evidence of the threat had passed for another night. She would have argued, but they'd come to some understanding and she didn't want to ruin that. Besides, it was just sleep. She'd instructed him to get some, as well, knowing full well that he wouldn't just as much as he ought to have known full well that she wouldn't. They were both just about equally stubborn in that regard.

In most regards, really. Maybe that was why--

Why what? Why they hadn't been able to connect again in this place like they almost had back at home? Why they'd been attracted to each other in the first place? You couldn't pin a why on things like that. She knew it, even for all her wanting to know the reasons behind every last action and reaction in the universe. This place wasn't conducive to those types of questions; nearly a year here had taught her that this place didn't often offer answers. And now it needed them, itself, if it was going to keep existing.

If she was going to keep existing.

She wasn't quite sure what leaving this place would do. Presuming she could get to another world, somewhere outside of time, like Milliways. Somewhere that her continued existence wouldn't create a temporal paradox.

Would that matter? If I wasn't on my Earth any more, would a world-ending paradox matter? Whose world would I end?

More impossible questions. Some days she was selfish and felt like risking it. If Wesley could exist as a corporeal dead person then she could exist as a paradox. Maybe not even that. She and Illyria had barely interacted. Was it a paradox just to know about the existence of a future version of yourself who wasn't really yourself to begin with? If she learned a way to willfully avoid Illyria's resurrection, then yes. That would have been the kind of thing that made your brain hurt to think about too closely, because knowing to undo it means it had to have happened to begin with. But just escaping? Just being elsewhere, not avoiding, just... not meeting that end. Not willfully undoing it. Not using any knowledge learned from Illyria to undo it. That wouldn't end the world.

It would just end one blue ex-goddess who Fred had only spoken to a grand total of maybe five times in the entire time she'd been here. Fred wondered if she ought to care about that.

Some of those times she helped you.
Only because helping me helps her. Can't have the Shell destroyed.
Then where is she now? Why isn't she helping stop the impending destruction now?

That question had an answer.

And it was in search of that answer that Fred found herself knocking on the door of the room that she realized upon further reflection suited Illyria far better than it ever would have suited her, despite its mathematical interest. Anything called a perfect number wasn't something she wanted to associate with herself. She didn't aspire to those kind of heights.

But if Illyria did, and if she'd gotten the powers back to prove it, Fred wanted some answers about why a goddess wasn't helping stop this thing.

And maybe some other answers, besides.
supersymmetry: (click)
It had been a while.

Fred didn't even know what that meant. Why she'd been keeping to herself so much more of late, why she'd been so oddly quiet since (and during, if she was honest with herself) Faith's wedding.

Getting out had been a relief, even if it was getting out to some place that was equally strange as this one. And this place had never stopped being strange. Even after so many months - over half a year, and she still hadn't started to regard this place as home. This room whose walls she'd never written on, the downstairs full of strange people and strange not-people... it shouldn't have been so different from home. Shouldn't have been that much stranger than the Hyperion had been when she'd arrived there. It had taken her months to start considering that place home, too. But it was different there. There she'd had a purpose, and a center, and ...

Something this place lacked.

Plenty of people found happiness here. Plenty of people she knew, people from her own world, had found something to make this place click.

And she hadn't.

All she'd found were myriad impossibilities. She felt a pang of guilt at thinking that, of counting that as a negative when she was one such impossibility and Wesley was another. But that was part of the problem. Words like death had so little meaning here. How was she supposed to reconcile the fact that back in their own world, Wesley was dead, and so was she? That latter part was a little easier, except how could it be? What was dead when the so-called proof was walking around and occasionally looking and acting just like her?

So many questions, and no answers forthcoming, not in all the months she'd spent going through every book she could get her hands on to try to explain the physics of it all.

And in all that time she'd never really talked about it, not in the kind of depth she needed to to understand. Partially because she didn't want to burden people with the difficult questions, and partially because the one person who might have given her answers wasn't someone she could bring herself to ask. Not when they both worked so hard at pretending to be normal, at ignoring the facts because the facts didn't make sense.

So if she hadn't seen Wesley much since they'd gotten back from Faith's wedding, if she'd been purposefully distant, it was no different than how willfully distant he'd been all along.

All the same, she finds herself contemplating the door, wondering if maybe tonight she should just go upstairs and knock on his door and ask some of the difficult questions after all.
supersymmetry: (otherways prettyvamp)
She's alone again. She'd gotten used to it, had more than enough time to get used to it back in that cave. She should have known she'd end up that way again, no matter what the pretty redhaired girl had said. She'd said a lot, but she'd gotten bored easily. She didn't have the kind of patience that Fred had, and it had killed her in the end. Fred could have warned her about that, if her opinion had ever been asked.

The girl who had once been Fred wanders the alleys of a town that had never been hers. Sunnydale, Willow had called it. Places had names. She had to remind herself. This was Sunnydale, and the one she'd left was Los Angeles, and the names seemed all wrong for what she was now. They didn't fit. Pylea hadn't fit, either, but she'd been lucky. No, she corrects herself. She'd been strong, and now she would be strong forever.

Alone or not.

She's still lost in thought when she spies a place up ahead, a bar that was still in operation in spite of the fear these humans dwelled in. It would be fully of pretty helpless things like she'd been, and the men who made themselves feel stronger by thinking they could protect them. She could slip right in and take home a nice strong protective type, take him back and show him what weakness really was. Make him pay for not being able to keep himself safe. She didn't need anyone to keep her safe, not now.

(Handsome man saves me from the monsters.)

It had been her dream, once. A child's dream, the dream of a foolish weak girl that she'd never be again.

Absently, with a half-smile on her lips as she thinks of how much better than tree bark and berries her dinner would taste, she pushes the door open.
supersymmetry: (otherways prettyvamp)
This version of Fred is from the Wishverse, an AU universe that was presented in the BTVS episodes The Wish and Dopplegangland.

As the original Fred, she was a graduate student in Physics at the time that she got sucked into a portal into Pylea, a demon dimension in which humans were treated as cattle. This is where the similarities end. This Fred found her own way out of Pylea. One day she got brave, ventured further afield than she otherwise would have. Found one of the portals she opened, and ran through... but not home.

Instead, she ran straight into a vampire in the ruined town that Sunnydale, in the absence of a Slayer, had been. By mere coincidence the vampire she ran into was the version of Willow that appeared in the aforementioned episodes. Fascinated by the strange girl who reminded her more than a little of her mortal self, Willow sired Fred as her own vampiric childe. The two were together for only a short time before Willow was ripped out of her timeline and sent back only to be staked, as per the events in Dopplegangland. Fred, however, survived.

Alone.

Until she too was ripped out of her timeline and ended up in a bar at the end of the universe.

She's approximately as crazy as one would expect, and is very similar to the scattered post-Pylean Fred of early Season 2 of Angel, though she still has the brilliant mind that Fred had and has her moments of clarity in which this brilliance is displayed. She has never met most of the people from the Angelverse. The exception: she has met Angel, since vamp!Willow kept him in a cage in her world. She's also met Vamp!Xander. She has not met Wesley, Cordelia (though she knows Cordelia's name, knows her as one of the ones that Vamp!Willow and Vamp!Xander killed), or Gunn, should any of them show up in Otherways.
supersymmetry: (regret)
Fred was more than a little frazzled.

It had been some number of days that she'd lost count of, but definitely more than was normal for Wesley, even with the distance that they still gave each other. They didn't necessarily see each other every day, if one or the other got wrapped up in something interesting. They were both rather prone to forgetting the passage of days in this place. But he'd been gone for a while and she knew because she'd been looking. Looking everywhere. His room, the library, all around the bar itself. Even the infirmary, on the considerable likelihood that he'd annoyed something more powerful than himself.

It was on that last thought that she felt her blood run cold and her mind finally gave voice to the sneaking suspicion that had been trying to work its way into being all week.

Illyria.

Just a few weeks ago she'd asked that Wesley stop offering his assistance to the demon goddess. It just wasn't right on pretty much any level, she thought. And sure, Illyria wouldn't harm her, but that wasn't to say that she wouldn't harm anybody. Hadn't she gotten into constant violent fights with that vampire friend of hers? Come to think about it, she hadn't seen him around in a good long while, either, but missing vampires were less her concern than her own missing boyfriend.

That was the heart of the matter.

Wesley was missing, and she didn't know how to find him. But someone might. Someone who would likely get offended at the accusations that Fred was likely to make, but who could not, in the end, do anything too harmful. And at present Fred was still intent on dealing with things peacefully.

She could do that. Hopefully.

She hadn't quite been intending on doing so quite as immediately as she found herself at the door to room 496, but once there, she found that she could not let hesitation stand in the way of solving the problem. It was a simple enough matter. Raise your hand and knock. She'd answer, words would be traded, and at the end of everything perhaps she'd know --

"Make your inquiry."

Her thoughts were interrupted by this sudden command, and she startled at finding herself face to face with Illyria, whose expression was as unreadable as it had ever been. She certainly didn't sound very friendly, but that wasn't new, and Fred didn't care. She had to remind herself of this fact, but she wasn't here because she wanted to be, and she didn't care if the goddess wanted her to be, either.

"... hi."

Well, that was lamer than she'd planned. But it was a start. She took a deep breath and met the impatient goddess's gaze with a equally unwavering one of her own.

"I'm sure you know what I'm here to ask, so why don't we just skip the small talk?"

"You wish to know where Wesley is." the goddess replied, and Fred couldn't remember if she'd sounded that cold the time that she'd come to deliver the information that Wesley was dead. She didn't want to remember that.

Fred nods, and starts to say yes, and perhaps explain herself in some way, but realizes too late that it isn't necessary, as Illyria spoke again.

"And you think I have something to do with his disappearance."

"I--" she hesitated, not sure if answering was the wisest course when dealing with someone who could deal out considerable amounts of pain without ever actually killing Fred. But she couldn't lie, either. She hated that she didn't even get the choice, but it made things easier.

"Yes. I think you might have had something to do with it."

When she was met with only silence, Fred added, "Or that you might at least know what happened."

"I neither know nor care." Illyria replied, and this time Fred was certain that her tone was deliberately cruel. "You recall as well as I do the conversation in which he agreed not to associate with me any more."

Something about the way she says it made Fred wince internally. As if it were now her fault that she couldn't find Wesley, or as if she should feel guilty for making the request in the first place. Refusing to be cowed into feeling either of those things, she pressed on.

"I do. But I also know the likelihood of you taking no for an answer."

"You know nothing." Illyria snapped back, with enough venom in her voice to make Fred take a step back. "You wish to know what happened? Wesley and I spoke once more after the conversation in which you demanded that he cease associating with me. He made it abundantly clear that he wanted nothing more to do with me, and then the Slayer interrupted the argument which had devolved into the trading of petty insults. I know nothing more of his whereabouts after, nor do I wish to. He has proven himself as untrustworthy as all the rest of your species. You are welcome to him, should he ever return."

Fred opened her mouth to shoot back some angry reply, some defense of Wesley, or perhaps just some petty insults of her own, when she found the door abruptly slammed in her face.

She glared at the closed door for a few moments, restraining herself from walking in there and giving the goddess a piece of her mind just because she could. But in the end, rationality won out. Standing her arguing with her evil clone wasn't going to find Wesley, as much as she'd hoped it would. She'd been stupid to think that Illyria would be of any help. She never had been yet.

So Fred turned around and headed back the way she came, but could not quite resist one parting shot. She was thinking it anyway, so it wouldn't hurt anything more to actually say it, even over her shoulder to the still-closed door several feet behind her.

"... stupid blue bitch."
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Ahem.

Vamp!Fred, for when I app her at Otherways, and for another player of Vamp!Fred. And for anyone else who wants them, really, just please credit to [livejournal.com profile] viridian.



There will be others for snagging as I finish them.
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Because of LJ's new URL change thingy, names with underscores at the beginning can't just be username.livejournal.com any more. However, we get free name changes if we have said initial underscore.

AND because I've always wanted a name change for this one, it's time I did so.

Here's where you guys come in:

I want suggestions. Stuff people have come up with so far:

cave_girl
pylea_bound

screw_destiny (I like this one -- "Can I say something? Screw destiny." etc, etc, -- she says this in Season 3 to Angel, and I like it, even though her purpose in the bar is eventually to come to terms with her own destiny.)

cavemen_win (I like this one a lot too. "Cavemen win. Of course the cavemen win." -- some of her last words, and it has echoes with both her time in the cave in Pylea and with Illyria, being something primal and violent and such.)

walkwithheroes ("I walk with heroes. Think about that.")


More? I'll be taking suggestions til I go "Omg, that one's perfect" or until people chime in and vote for their favorites.
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Random OOC ramblings here, too.

So, was just rewatching the end of Season 3, and the Fred/Gunn relationship still annoys me to death, but there are at least funny parts, like in Double or Nothing where she honestly and with an appropriate expression of horror says "Oh my God, Charles, do you have leukemia?!" in such a hysterical manner that even Gunn laughs at her. However, this entire plot is made stupider by the fact that Gunn's actual problem is that he sold his soul for a truck. Yeah, I don't know either. The crack that infiltrates these episodes makes me want to put a brick through the tv. Or, computer screen, as the case may be.

It also strikes me that Fred gets herself into mortal peril more often than anyone I've ever seen, so at least I'm playing her right. In the first one that I watched tonight, The Price, she gets possessed by some water-seeking demony slug thing and almost dies, and is saved by the amazing power of alcohol. No, I'm not making this up. The worst part is that they had to go to Wesley in order to get, not any magic, but the bottle of vodka that they then make Fred drink. I hate this show so much that I love it, seriously.

What else? Oh, various Lilah ramblings, but I'll put those in Lilah's journal when I app her. I've already got some screencaps that I want to icon from the last two episodes, both of her in a bar.

EDIT: OH RIGHT. Now I know what I was going to ask. Post Season-4, what memories, exactly, replaced those that happened during the Connor episodes? Why does Fred think that she and Gunn spent pretty much the whole summer running Angel Investigations without the help of Angel (who was at the bottom of the ocean), Cordy (who was off being a higher power), and Wesley (who was off fucking Lilah)? I've already made it Millicanon that she knows about Cordy having been a higher power for a while, but she doesn't know about Wes/Lilah after the mindwipe even though she found out about it just before, because that was more directly tied into the betrayal involving Connor. But still, there's a period of time that they would have had to like, totally swap in new memories for. I guess it was just la la la business as usual for those few months, with the direct effects of the Connorplot erased, so Angel never spent that time at the bottom of the ocean and Wes never left, but all the other stuff that happened still happened. That makes the most sense. I'm sure when I watch Season 4 I'm going to have to come up with my own version of the new memories until I decide to let her get the real memories back, because Connor's around for a lot of Season 4, and I've also made it Millicanon that Fred remembers Jasmine, but THAT at least was true anyway, she could see through Jasmine's spell or whatever before the mindwipe, so it makes sense that she would remember her after and I guess she just thinks Cordy was mystically impregnated instead of factoring Connor in.

Oh my God this makes my head hurt, and they didn't address it AT ALL on the show, just la la oh PS they all forgot Connor but we're not going to deal with Connor's nonexistence having other implications that they also would have to forget. And of course, for everyone who's still ALIVE by the finale, they fix it, but not for Fred because she's not around then.
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It's nighttime, and Fred is in her room. She's been reading for a few hours -- more than a few, really. She tends to get lost in her own world so easily that she'd barely realized that it was late.

When she does realize, she only takes the time to shower and change into pajamas, not taking very much notice that she's done so. After all, it is not as though she has anyone to impress.

That thought makes her frown slightly without realizing that she's thinking about Wesley, vaguely wondering where he is, perhaps thinking briefly of wandering down to his room to say goodnight. Things had been good, but slightly strained, she thought. The strange situation had been so odd that it was a wonder they'd managed to find their bearings at all. So they tended to give each other a bit of distance now, never really having fallen into the ease of interaction that she'd shared with Gunn.

Stop that, it's not fair to compare.

Of course it wasn't, and she didn't compare them, not really. This place was perhaps less conducive to relationships than their old job had been.

All of these thoughts cross her mind as she turns the pages of her book, a volume on the theories of interdimensional spaces, but she soon finds herself absorbed in the pages too completely to think of anything else but the text.
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[The following takes place just after Wesley's entrance.]

She doesn't know how to explain, or if she even should explain. She's fairly sure she didn't, at any rate. Not yet. All she knew was that at some point they'd gotten from the booth to her room. As if she'd have let him be anywhere else this night.

The next thing she knew, she was kissing him like she'd never kissed anybody else in her life -- her blushing shyness with everyone else was the mask she wore to stay out of trouble. Her weakness had always been trouble. She'd been saving this welcome for him alone, ever since she'd learned there was a chance of saving him. Before, really. She'd never believed his death could be real, never accepted it, never truly grieved even when she was terrified to hope.

Now faced with him, real and here but here forever, unable to be anywhere else but gone, her tears flowed freely for all they'd lost and all they now regained. Grief mingled with inexpressible gratitute toward whatever force of fate had let them have this.

He kisses away her tears and she finds herself apologizing for being such a mess but she can't help it, her world hasn't made sense in so long. This place was like being back in Pylea at times, such was the strangeness of it all. But now he's here and somehow that makes sense even though it shouldn't. Even if it's only for right now.

So of course she asks him to stay. She's not worried about anything else. There would be time to deal with everything else later - for now all she wanted was sleep, nothing more. There was no need to rush things when both were grateful enough just to be near the other again. She knew there would come a time when she'd have to address the more troublesome details, like the strange pattern burned into the skin of her chest or the memories that she now shared with Illyria, but for tonight she would know peace.

Tonight they both would.
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Notes on Fred:

This Fred is not yet precisely post-canon, though she clearly knows of her canon ending. HOWEVER. She hasn't yet had her real memories returned by the breaking of the Window of Orlon, which means that she doesn't remember Connor. It may be that she also doesn't remember Wesley's betrayal, so she doesn't know just how dark he can go. This isn't important yet but it will be once Wes enters the bar. I do intend for her to have those memories restored somehow.

Just for personal reference, so I don't forget this fact and accidentally refer to Connor. Yes.
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For my boys: Angel, Charles, Lorne, Spike and Wesley;

I've written this thing about ten times now. It's never enough, and it won't be. I don't know how much I can or should tell you, but I couldn't not write this.

So. In your world, I'm dead. I get that, even though I'm not precisely dead yet where I am. I'm sorry I couldn't come with the others, but I'm not sure it's possible, or a good idea even if I could. I'm sorry I couldn't be there for the big showdown. I'm sure you'll kick some demon ass for me, though.

I'd written this all out individually, but there was too much to say, and not enough paper, and I kept crying all over the page and messing it up. So, to all of you: I love you. Everything else all comes back to that, really. It's why I stayed when I should have left, when leaving would have been safer. You've all been the best friends I could have hoped for. Some of you were more, at times. I'm sorry we didn't have longer, but I'm not sorry I stayed to help you fight all those times. I'll never be sorry for that.

Please be careful.

Now go to work.
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